Friday, October 31, 2008

Against the Grain

Ray wonders why no one isn't talking about Joe Biden's recent statement that Americans making more than $150,000 a year would see higher taxes, a significant difference from the ongoing campaign promise that only people making more than $250,000 would see higher taxes.

4 comments:

dubLLtime said...

Wow. Do you listen to yourself at all? You sound like the most paranoid nutjob I have ever heard...and believe me, I have heard a few of 'em.

That $150,000 tax thing was an error in speech. Period. The policy from the beginning up to now has been and is an increase for $250,000 and up while 200,000 to 250,000 stays the same. The rest, below 200,000 see relief. That's it. End of story.

As far the rest of what you are going on about here is absurd. No, Obama is not the Messiah or "The Chosen One" as you so often like to refer to him...anymore than President Bush is evil incarnate...or Satan himself.

Barack Obama is offering something we have not had in this country for the last eight years. That being hope and more importantly optimism. An idea that we the people can actually have a say in our government again.

With President Bush it was "his way or the highway". If you agreed with him, then he'd work with you otherwise he'd ignore you. I feel he was completely disconnected with the vast majority of this country. Obama is just the opposite. He completely understands what it is like to exist on the same level as the rest of us and knows what it takes to rise above it.

With McCain, he is out of touch. It seems obvious if you just listen to his stump speeches. He has little understanding of what it is like to be one of the "little people"...just like most have a hard time understanding what it would be like to own 5 or 6 or ....7....or however many houses he doesn't know he has.

I don't understand the paranoia you Republicans have with Obama. The sky is not going to fall if he is elected President. You just might find things get a little better economically in this country.

Ray Richardson said...

It was not a mistake. He said it because that is what will happen.

I realize facts do not matter here, but you cannot simply raise taxes on those over 250,000, raise spending one trillion dollars as he has proposed, pay for the 850 billion dollar bailout, the 170 billion spring stimulus and the new 200 billion dollar stimulus being proposed should he win.

America will endure under an Obama presidency and if he wins, I will accept it and him as my president, but that does not mean I want what he is offering.

His tax plan, you act like it is a piece of legislation that is written and pending discussion. It is not.

What worries me most about Obama is he is a true-believer. I know something about that.

We true-believers will not be detered from our thinking.

He has proven that point for me with his 2001 Chicago Public Radio interview and his 2008 comments to "Joe the Plumber."

Have you actually listened to his in-depth comments on the issues, read his stuff from before he ran, listened to interviews, actually gone in and applied his tax plan to your income?

I have done all those things and they do not represent anything I believe in.

I do not live in a world where seeking revenge is my goal on those who either slight me or are more successful than me.

Obama does. He wants to punish people for being successful instead of lifting all Americans up.

If he does it for you, that's great. I assume you believe it is okay to punish the successful for working hard, working smart and trying to get ahead.

I also assume you are willing to allow the fraud and abuse in our welfare system to continue as a "cost of doing business" so that these sacred cow programs are not critically looked at and have a real determination made about their actual success.

If big government worked, then why are we facing tough times in the USA and Maine. We have big government. If you say the spending is because of the war, you are naive and are only listening to the garbage fed to you by those who want power.

Social spending is driving the cost of our government. Anyone who says otherwise is either misinformed or on the take.

Bush drove spending by refusing to veto the pork-laden bills that came from Congress. He bought off Congress's vote for the war by agreeing to their selfish dreams of government largess that kept them in office.

Common sense usually sounds like paranoia to those who are buying snake oil from a wolfe in sheep's clothing.

If he wins the Presidency and gets sixty votes in the Senate, it will take at least two generations to un-do what they will have done.

If you believe America should be average, if you believe that those who take big risks and dream big dreams should be punished by forcing them to share their hard-earned good fortune, then Barack Hussein Obama is definitely your man.

I say McCain wins with either 270, 274 or 275 electoral votes and spares the country at least one more generation before the takers actually takeover.

Ray Richardson said...

Let me ask you.

How much government spending is enough?

Do you have a number? If so, what is it and what will be accomplished once it is spent?

I am sure you know, even if you will not admit it, that we cannot create prosperity that is sustained through government spending. It is simply not possible.

Bruce said...

Gee ray at least I have never called you a nut job
You said
"have done all those things and they do not represent anything I believe in"
Thank God for that.